Many people believe that the stupidity of government knows no bounds. The WayneWho staff believes that government is not inherently stupid, but that a sense of moronic ignorance overtakes elected officials once they take office because of a constant tug-of-war between the different mentalities of the public and private sectors. Of course at last weeks City of Kissimmee Commission meeting, our beliefs were stretched thin as the Commission attempted to debate a new 'Security Tax' ordinance that seems to do more to discourage citizens and businesses from protecting life and property than it does to promote it. What we found most interesting about the meeting was the commission and the staff's complete ignorance on the particulars of this ordinance when a citizen/business owner began asking questions.
Before we continue on with the questions that were asked we would like to point out one simple fact. The Dallas based company that has already been hired by the commission, which it seems they were unaware of, made these recommendations to improve their ability to collect fines imposed by the current ordinance. A 'salesperson' from the company then devised a plan that would increase the amount they could bill, and city staff fell right in line, quickly creating an ordinance that would charge all owners of security systems excessive fees whether or not they had ever had a false alarm call. The staff and the commission were excited about this new revenue stream because their cut would go straight to their general fund for use on pet projects like round-about fountains, government subsidized farmers markets, and kick-backs to non-profit organizations that may or not may be in the public interest. We are unaware, at this time, of how much money the city will make as the 'Security Tax' collection agency sells the personal data it collects to telemarketers or whomever might have an interest in such information because the original ordinance was written so badly, and the ordinance that has passed its first reading was left so full of holes, that it is just not clear. Originally we would have assumed the commission or staff would have had a slight grip on the ordinance they were attempting to pass, but as we continued to watch we were proven wrong.
A single citizen was allowed to speak on the issues surrounding this ordinance which, the commission realized right away, was a mistake. To the citizens questions, the commission responded with dumbfounded "ahh... we aren't really sure", "we don't have answers to that", and the occasionally gurgling noises that at least let the viewing audience know they were somewhat conscious, but unfortunately their Commander, Christopher Pike retorts left little clarity in the minds of anyone watching in the audience. To be fair to the citizen, we would note that the questions that were asked were very simple and were not as difficult as some on the commission would lead you to believe. Questions like, "Would the fees have to be paid if my alarm system does not automatically call the police?", "If a fee has to be charged, why is there a difference between commercial and residential security systems?," and "Commissioner Otero, being a staunch Ronald Reagan Republican, how is it you can be for more government and higher taxes especially on businesses in an economy that is this bad?" Beep once for yes, twice for no.
Of course after the commission discussed all of the problems with the ordinance and ignored the citizens questions, the motion was made to pass the first reading of the ordinance so it could be completely modified before the second, and final, reading. This even though a motion had already been made to postpone the first reading of the ordinance until it could be fixed. So much for procedure.
Beep... Beep...
Wednesday, December 3, 2008
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Art is a disappointment so far. When he was running he said that he was not going to just go along with everything that was said, and sure enough, that is what he just did. I guess the 'Secretary' might have been a better pick.
What I don’t understand, WayneWho, is your point. Are you against the city attempting to save taxpayers’ money by avoiding the many false alarm calls our police and fire departments respond to every day? If a citizen had pointed out the large dollars in gas, officers’ time and vehicle maintenance that is wasted in attending to a broken alarm system every day, you’d be crying foul and demanding the commission make changes. But when our police chief takes the initiative to try to fix an obvious problem, you see poorly disguised attempt to bleed the life out of Kissimmee citizens, $10 at a time.
While I agree that a yearly fee is awfully like a new tax, what we need is a dialogue, not you throwing your hands up in disgust and writing off any attempts at making our city a better place to live, however misguided and fee-heavy they may be. John Bykowski was the only one “allowed to speak” because he was the only one who bothered to come to the meeting and voice his opinions.
That said, I’d like to make the following points:
1) The general fund does not pay for fountains. The money for that roundabout fountain came out of transportation fees.
2) Since there seemed to be some concern with telemarketers, I found this in the drafted ordinance: personal data collected through the alarm permits “shall be privileged information held in confidence by all employees or representatives of the City and by any third-party administrator or employees of a third-party administrator with access to such information.” Take that for what you will.
3) The city offered the following answers to Bykowski’s questions:
-- Yes, you would have to pay fees even if your alarm system does not automatically call the police.
-- The amended ordinance the commission voted for includes no difference between commercial and residential security systems. Both would be charged $10.
-- Despite the mayor’s demands for silence so he could inform John how to properly secure his own business, you are allowed to speak, Commissioner Otero.
I think Wayne gets your point Hamilton, but I think you are not looking at the debate he is laying out. The city is bleeding residents and business owners by more than just $10.00. The original ordinace said $25 and $50. $10 was just thrown out as a number. Even if it is only $10 then we should add that to the fire fee that we are also being charged. I guess all the churches in the area that have security to protect their buildings will just have to pony up some more. This new fee is just another attempt by the mayor and our commission to find a way to keep from having to make the same cutbacks that every resident and business in this community is already making. I watched the meeting and they could not answer the simple question of how much revenue this would create.
While I do not know the person you are refereance by name, I assume that Bykowski was the citizen who was asking the questions that not even the commissioners knew to ask. The question is why would Bykowski listen to advice on securing his business or home from and manager at Waste Management? Mayor Swan has no security backgound besides a strong story telling ability. That comment does not even make sense.
I think this is another great article because it speaks to the issue of how you believe government should be run. The commentor Hamilton believes that government can should charge everyone based on the actions of some. Hmmm... and they were calling Obama a socialist.
Keep it up WayneWho... You are making this a better community by asking questions nobody want you to ask. Keep it up!
So in a recession, it is good for the government to keep charging fees even though they have not told us the savings we can expect to have if these false don't exist? Aren't the police on duty anyway? It is not like we pay more to have them go to a 'False Alarm' call than just driving around. I would rather keep my 10 bucks because the government doesn't bleeping need it.
There doesn't have to be any new license fee for alarms. The ordinance should simply say that any alarm company wanted to install or service alarms in Kissimmee shall supply the City with the names and current contact information of who they are monitoring. This puts the onus on the monitoring or installation company. Anyway, I think the whole thing is just a way to grab more money. It seems to me that a data base of who is alarmed is just an opportunity for a crook to know at a glance which homes in the neighborhood not to hit.
Commander Pike. That is too funny. I wish they would act more like Commander Pike so we did not have to listen to them sound so clueless.
So the recipie for a better economy is tax cuts and the city of kissimmee decided to raise them? Explains why everyone is pulling out. You will be left with a ghost town soon enough.
Nothing ever changes!
My apologies if my last comment on the exchange between Swan and John Bykowski, a business owner, didn't come off as sarcastic. If you didn't watch it, the conversation went something like:
Bykowski: What if my alarm system doesn't automatically alert the police?
Swan: That doesn’t work very well, just so you know. I probably have more in depth knowledge of this issue than anybody sitting in this room.
Bykowski: I’m not going to debate in a public forum how I respond to security incidents in my business.
Mayor Swan, ladies and gentlemen, the very definition of diplomacy and tact.
(insert sarcasm)
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